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SPOILERS for The Eternity Ring

The Eternity Ring (July 1946); The Cage (August 1946); Sunflower (Aug/Sept 1946)

Re: SPOILERS for The Eternity Ring

Postby starlight » Fri Oct 25, 2013 5:33 pm

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Re: SPOILERS for The Eternity Ring

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Re: SPOILERS for The Eternity Ring

Postby Lynnedean » Sat Oct 26, 2013 9:41 am

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Re: SPOILERS for The Eternity Ring

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Re: SPOILERS for The Eternity Ring

Postby Wolesley » Sat Oct 26, 2013 3:27 pm

"...no weapon but the truth, no army but the evidence."

Beautifully phrased, Starlight! I agree!

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Re: SPOILERS for The Eternity Ring

Postby jewell » Sat Oct 26, 2013 3:31 pm

Crap!

I posted a hurried but well thought out commentary on this subject yesterday, Friday, about 12:30 CDT and it's not here. I was interested in your reactions, but it's not here!

I'll look in my user control panel - does this possibly save drafts?

Any help, Lesley?

No time to recreate it now.

Computer frustration!!! :foyle3:

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Re: SPOILERS for The Eternity Ring

Postby Wolesley » Sat Oct 26, 2013 3:39 pm

Sorry, Jewell, that has happened to me several times, too, while composing a brilliant, or more likely, lengthy, response - extremely frustrating!!! Sometimes the composition window on this site just times out and kicks you out! I've learned to hit the 'preview' button if I've been thinking too long as I write, and then continue composing. That seems to save the draft, usually.

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Re: SPOILERS for The Eternity Ring

Postby starlight » Sat Oct 26, 2013 3:50 pm

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Re: SPOILERS for The Eternity Ring

Postby Lynnedean » Sat Oct 26, 2013 5:36 pm

The board will do this to you at times, Jewell. As Lesley says, it's a time out thing. There are two ways by which you can ensure that if the board loses your message when you try to post it, you still have the text ...

1. compose your message in a word processor and then copy it over to the board when ready, or
2. compose your message on the board, but take a copy of the text before clicking "submit" to post it
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Re: SPOILERS for The Eternity Ring

Postby Sunshine » Sat Oct 26, 2013 9:58 pm

We've also discussed, with regard to the scene with Sam about not discussing cases in "Bleak Midwinter," that it was possible that Foyle was trying to protect her from blurting out anything precisely because Milner was involved.

I agree that in "All Clear," Foyle's disappointment with Kieffer relates to the fact that Kieffer undertook such tactics to get Griffiths to admit his guilt, and didn't confront Griffiths head-on. It may be true that Foyle misunderstood the grief and anguish Kieffer felt at having undergone such a tragedy, and Kieffer actually addresses this in that comment to Foyle about Foyle's remaining "above it all." (Or AH may address, through Kieffer's comment, any discomfort with Foyle's upset about Kieffer's actions.)

And I agree that his "regrettable" comment indicates that Foyle wanted to bring Paige to justice alive and well. :foyle4:

I'm not so worried for Foyle's soul. :foyle5:
Just looked over the chapter on "Horse Racing and Illegal Rambling."

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Re: SPOILERS for The Eternity Ring

Postby Jillybean » Sun Oct 27, 2013 11:49 pm

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Re: SPOILERS for The Eternity Ring

Postby starlight » Mon Oct 28, 2013 12:02 am

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Re: SPOILERS for The Eternity Ring

Postby ayresorchids » Mon Oct 28, 2013 12:04 am

When you really know you're a goner is when you feel sympathy for him at times even in Chancer and The Guilty. [shakes head at hopelessness of her own plight] :sad:
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Re: SPOILERS for The Eternity Ring

Postby Jillybean » Mon Oct 28, 2013 12:23 am

I know, it's quite an obvious observation, but I personally don't ever feel empathy with any other actor (well maybe David Suchet a little).

I admit that in Chancer, part (well most) of me was thinking "Why Dex? What on earth is she thinking when Roman is up for it!" It's not unusual for me to see that the 'good guy' tends to be in the wrong only when MK plays the bad guy. I'm trying to be less biased but it's very difficult...

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Re: SPOILERS for The Eternity Ring

Postby starlight » Mon Oct 28, 2013 12:44 am

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Re: SPOILERS for The Eternity Ring

Postby Sunshine » Mon Oct 28, 2013 11:31 am

Just looked over the chapter on "Horse Racing and Illegal Rambling."

I haven't got the requisite capacity for deceit.
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Re: SPOILERS for The Eternity Ring

Postby Samfan » Fri Jun 13, 2014 7:32 pm

Just re-watched Eternity Ring last night. I still don't get all aspects of the plot (sigh--I don't think I ever will :puzzled: ). But at the end, when Foyle is talking To Fraser, did Foyle really believe that Fraser would just go turn himself in to the MI-5? I always think that when I see that scene.

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Re: SPOILERS for The Eternity Ring

Postby starlight » Fri Jun 13, 2014 7:46 pm

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Re: SPOILERS for The Eternity Ring

Postby Samfan » Fri Jun 13, 2014 7:49 pm

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Re: SPOILERS for The Eternity Ring

Postby Wolesley » Sat Jun 14, 2014 8:36 am

Professor Fraser is modelled after atomic scientist Alan Nunn May, who did give research secrets and isotopes to the Soviets. Horowitz made the character rather more idealistically motivated, intimating that Foyle persuades him to take a moral stand and declare his actions to the British authorities, so that Foyle wouldn't have to turn him in.

Here's a bit about Nunn May -

May refused to define his actions as treason, claiming in a statement after his release from prison that he believed he had "acted rightly" and had acted as a spy because of being "wholeheartedly concerned with securing victory over Nazi Germany and Japan, and the furtherance of the development of the peaceful uses of atomic energy."
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Nunn_May

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