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Quietly Enigmatic • View topic - The Russian House
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The Russian House

PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 10:39 pm
by Wolesley
When the Brigadier says, "You always were a bit Bolshie, Foyle," I took that to mean he saw Foyle as politically on the left, or expressing concern and support for the common folk and for the enlisted men during the Great War. But perhaps he meant the last term mentioned in this definition on Wikipedia:

During the days of the Cold War in the United Kingdom, labour union leaders and other leftists were sometimes derisively described as "Bolshies". The usage is roughly equivalent to the term "Commie", "Red" or "pinko" in the United States during the same period. The term "Bolshie" later became a slang term for anyone who was rebellious, aggressive or truculent.

Did the Brigadier simply mean that Foyle was rebellious and truculent? That is certainly how he would come across to a superior officer for which Foyle had no liking or respect!

Lesley

Re: The Russian House

PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 4:25 pm
by historianheidi
I took it to mean 'rebellious and truculent' Lesley, in the context, rather than anything overtly political.

I agree that a superior officer who didn't have Foyle's respect could take him that way. :biggrin:

Re: The Russian House

PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 5:48 pm
by amiga
I agree. Our dear Mr. Foyle certainly has a 'rebellious and truculent' side! Think that fits him more than political.

Amiga

Re: The Russian House

PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 9:54 pm
by Lynnedean
I'm sure Brigadier Wilson meant "bolshie" in the sense that Foyle was rebellious and difficult to manage. Earlier that day, Andrew Bennet had informed Wilson that the security services didn't like Foyle because "he's crossed swords with them on two separate occasions" and that "he's not an easy man to control." In the club that night, Wilson recalls that Foyle was "always a bit bolshie" when he realises that even though the man has been told in no uncertain terms to forget about the escaped prisoner, the signs are that he's not going to let the matter drop. He then tells Foyle that MI5 have him down as a troublemaker, and warns him not to go back to the Russian House.

Foyle's tendency to be his own man and to be unafraid to go up against authority where necessary would be attested to by a succession of Assistant Police Commissioners!

While I'm sure that's what was meant, I'm not sure if the term isn't out of its time here. Query for Heidi ... was the term "bolshie" in use in this sense as early as the 1940s?

Re: The Russian House

PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 11:44 pm
by starlight
I believe it is just an attempt to characterise negatively Foyle's refusal to be managed, deflected, obstructed, bullied, patronised or charmed away from his pursuit of the truth.

Used in this slang sense, the term "bolshie" may indeed be anachronistic, but I'd still say that the intended reference is to Foyle's regular refusal to toe the line.

Interesting to note, though, that he lets Sam manage him into things, once in a while. :samkiss: :foyle4:

Re: The Russian House

PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 12:31 am
by historianheidi

Re: The Russian House

PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 3:56 am
by Wolesley
Thanks, everyone, I think that clears it up for me, and makes a lot more sense in the context. :smile:
Lesley

Re: The Russian House

PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 5:53 am
by Wolesley
Hah! I've just caught an old episode of Midsomer Murders from 2009: Secrets and Spies, and one of the last lines is Anna Massey saying to D I Tom Barnaby, "You always were a bit of a Bolshie." (Not written by Horowitz, though.)

Lesley

Re: The Russian House

PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 5:22 pm
by nipluckett
Last night I caught an old episode of Hyacinth Bucket, pronounced Bouquet, and she referred to the rubbish collector as a Bolshie something or other. She was concerned that they were running trucks on her street on days her rubbish wasn't being collected. She seemed to think that people would assume that their rubbish was common and not exclusive.

Re: The Russian House

PostPosted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 7:31 am
by Wolesley
Photo from the filming, Sam & Foyle running out of the hotel; nice image of Sam's outfit. Love the shoes!
http://capitalpictures.photoshelter.com ... awxjVAQf1A

Lesley

Re: The Russian House

PostPosted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:06 am
by hazeleyes57
Great shot - they're both in mid-air!

Thanks Lesley :thumbsup:

Re: The Russian House

PostPosted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 6:29 pm
by Sunshine
Mr. Foyle is setting both a speed and distance record for him! :foyle1: :lol: Thanks again, Lesley!

Re: The Russian House

PostPosted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:48 pm
by ayresorchids

Re: The Russian House

PostPosted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 11:18 pm
by Lynnedean
Reminded me that on your previous board, Lesley, someone drew our attention to this and other candid shots taken during the filming in Bloomsbury (great one of Honeysuckle Weeks blowing a big bubble while chewing bubble gum!), plus a few publicity shots from other episodes. They're on the Capital Pictures website. As it's a complicated URL, the board won't reproduce a direct link to the page of photographs, so please go to , put "Foyle's War" into the search box labelled "keywords" (nothing else is required), and press "search".

Re: The Russian House

PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 1:03 am
by amiga
Nope, didn't hurt my eyes to look at them again! Thanks. Lynne

Amiga

Re: The Russian House

PostPosted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 3:07 am
by ayresorchids
My husband and I just watched this one, and his dislike of Edie is now even stronger. "Look what she's turning him into, with her ambition! He's rude to Sam! He's rude to Foyle! I knew from the moment she looked excited to have a boyfriend who might kill his wife to be with her that she was no good! And it doesn't matter which actress plays her!"

lol

Re: The Russian House

PostPosted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 4:47 am
by mohairMK

Re: The Russian House

PostPosted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 1:40 pm
by Sunshine
"Flying Foyle." Now that's a rarity! :foyle5: :lol:

Re: The Russian House

PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 6:22 am
by Wolesley
Rewatching this ep. on British Columbia's Knowledge Network, and had to laugh at the scene where the Brigadier meets with his staff at the War Office: when the camera focuses on him, all the others are blowing billowing clouds of cigarette smoke across the shot. Twice. Surprised Tim Piggot-Smith didn't have a coughing fit! :lol:

Also still totally in love with F & S's conversation after the murder - 'Of course I know you didn't kill him, but...did you?'
And then Foyle's delightful riposte, 'I could drive you!'

Lesley

Re: The Russian House

PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 2:30 pm
by Lynnedean